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Post by Nashimura on Mar 4, 2017 17:49:31 GMT
I didn't play it much so I don't know how the game was. The game was good, a solid 8.2 for me. It won several prizes in 2014, included game of the year. But a few people now decided that the game sucks and started using it as a way to criticize MEA. Not like that for me, i did like it at first, i felt it gave a good first impression... just as i played it more i started to like it less, it was... quite a grind and the story for the most part lacked a good pay off. The design of ME:A sounds influenced, i hope the padded grindy parts were not what they brought over.
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Post by Fiery Phoenix on Mar 4, 2017 17:57:58 GMT
I didn't play it much so I don't know how the game was. The game was good, a solid 8.2 for me. It won several prizes in 2014, included game of the year. But a few people now decided that the game sucks and started using it as a way to criticize MEA. DAI won GOTY because of the lack of competition at the time, especially in the RPG space. 2014 was a terrible year for RPG's. It would never have won in 2015, with competitors like Witcher, Bloodborne, and Fallout.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 4, 2017 18:02:45 GMT
The game was good, a solid 8.2 for me. It won several prizes in 2014, included game of the year. But a few people now decided that the game sucks and started using it as a way to criticize MEA. DAI won GOTY because of the lack of competition at the time, especially in the RPG space. 2014 was a terrible year for RPG's. It would never have won in 2015, with competitors like Witcher, Bloodborne, and Fallout. Considering that it wasn't a 2015 game, we can't never tell if it wouldn't. All we know is that its 2015 last major DLC was very well received and popular a year after game's release, and that despite release of Witcher, Bloodborne or impending release of Fallout .
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Post by vallixas on Mar 4, 2017 18:04:02 GMT
On the subject of broken classes. You know what the weird thing is, Bioware nerfed Knight Enchanter's never ending god barriers of justice, but at the same time the DLC gave tanks the ability to extend guard to the entire party which actually pretty much gave the entire party KE's immortality lol.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 4, 2017 18:17:49 GMT
Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking with that.
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Post by Gray Jedi on Mar 4, 2017 18:35:33 GMT
Well MEA has some things in common with DAI large open areas with establishing camps the concern i have and maybe others is the side content having to many fetch quests which is a common complaint with DAI.
I just hope bioware learned there lesson and do a better job with filling the world with better side content and not overuse fetch quests.
Just because it won goty awards (in a weak year) does not mean its perfect and has nothing to improve on.
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Post by jayhartric on Mar 4, 2017 19:54:55 GMT
Oh I see. Too many mmo-style fetch quests is what made me quit Destiny. I read that Bioware said there won't be those kinds of missions though. The mechanic of having NPC doing missions actually sounds fun as long as there is some strategy to it. I would let it play out as opposed to reloading for the best rewards.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 21:06:36 GMT
Andromeda looks a lot like Inquisition, though. Even though there's new areas and a new story, it builds upon the mechanics of inquisition. However, whether you like that or not, that's up to you. I myself, didn't like Inquisition-- but, i'm still very hyped for Andromeda.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 4, 2017 21:18:30 GMT
I could have forgiven DA:I a lot if its combat had been more interesting. It felt largely just like a cooldown watch, especially playing as a tanky two-hander. I found a (bug?) with one of the abilities - where you can spin around in a circle hitting enemies, can't think of the name - which is supposed to stop after a few hits. Yet if you didn't target anyone but just stood there spinning your axe around, you were just a massacring machine. It was ridiculously easy, and made the other abilities pointless unless you wanted to make life harder for yourself, or just liked to watch cooldown timers.
ME:A combat looks more interesting, which should lessen the tedium of encounter battles.
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Post by lundajfs on Mar 4, 2017 23:23:12 GMT
DAI is the worst thing ever made... some reasons: 1 - MMORPG-style fetch quests 2 - MMORPG-style resource gathering and respawn 3 - MMORPG-style combat and enemy respawn 4 - MMORPG-style streamlined combat, combat roles, skills, etc 5 - Power is useless if you are a completionist and a grind if you just want to follow the story 6 - Story is Marvel Formula, awful main character, great companions, "awfuler" villain 7 - Awful story pace 8 - Villain is never a threat after act 1, in fact it is pitiable how much of a failure the villain is 9 - Farming for money and schematics is ridiculous and if you use the Golden Nug combat becomes pointless, so either way awful 10 - Out of combat game seems like playing Mario 64 if Nintendo did not try to give it a good gameplay, just trade Stars for Shards and other stuff 11 - Trespasser, Descent and JoH expand the lore and are amazing at that but gameplay wise they are still the base game, Trespasser however showed that DAI could be a lot better than what it was if Bioware did not try to make a game huge maps with empty spaces and retarded fetch quests instead of just a great story
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 4, 2017 23:26:24 GMT
DAI is the worst thing ever made... some reasons: 1 - MMORPG-style fetch quests 2 - MMORPG-style resource gathering and respawn 3 - MMORPG-style combat and enemy respawn 4 - MMORPG-style streamlined combat, combat roles, skills, etc 5 - Power is useless if you are a completionist and a grind if you just want to follow the story 6 - Story is Marvel Formula, awful main character, great companions, "awfuler" villain 7 - Awful story pace 8 - Villain is never a threat after act 1, in fact it is pitiable how much of a failure the villain is 9 - Farming for money and schematics is ridiculous and if you use the Golden Nug combat becomes pointless, so either way awful 10 - Out of combat game seems like playing Mario 64 if Nintendo did not try to give it a good gameplay, just trade Stars for Shards and other stuff Will continue later...
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Post by lundajfs on Mar 4, 2017 23:33:35 GMT
DAI is the worst thing ever made... some reasons: And understand that I am not talking only about games I am talking about everything, as I constantly say in other posts it is worse than slavery, nazism, cancer and on and on
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 4, 2017 23:37:06 GMT
And understand that I am not talking only about games I am talking about everything, as I constantly say in other posts it is worse than slavery, nazism, cancer and on and on
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Post by vonuber on Mar 4, 2017 23:39:35 GMT
The story pace of ME2 was just as bad. You could have about half the game (easily) inbetween the dead reaper and before triggering the tardis, where everyone fits into a 4 man shuttle.
Before the BSN was virmired I was doing a playthrough of ME2 and I think I ended up with about 12 missions to do, excluding things like arrival, firewalker, lotsb and the n7 stuff.
Rather ruins the pacing somewhat - and yet people still say it's the best game by far.
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Post by lundajfs on Mar 5, 2017 2:42:29 GMT
And understand that I am not talking only about games I am talking about everything, as I constantly say in other posts it is worse than slavery, nazism, cancer and on and onNot trolling... I spent 2 years ranting about DAI on a daily basis because they destroyed my favorite franchise, if getting butthurt is trolling then ok... now I do this more rarely so perhaps it is trolling since it doesn't hurt me that much anymore, so it is less honest and more "attetion whorism", but the scars DAI left on my soul are deep enough for me to say that it is not 100% trolling. I'm more of a mentally sick person than a troll. My investment on DA is serious, I still play DAO, meaning I am currently playing,I am alyways playing, it is (was) really of a big deal for me. The only reason I am not making a thousando topics on every forum ranting about DAI now is because of PoE and Tyranny, Obsidian saved my soul (and 2018, PoE2 will keep me alive another year). Tyranny is probably the first game I finished 4 times straight, not even DAO was that good (I usually finish games dozens of times, but rarely more than once at launch, I usually get into games a year or years after release and then I never stop playing them, but Tyranny is so godlike it captured me right there, love at first sight), but other than that I would still be obsessively talking about how awful DAI is, and I mean crazily crazy obsessive.
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Post by Arcian on Mar 5, 2017 2:51:33 GMT
I didn't play it much so I don't know how the game was. DA:I was essentially a single-player MMO with insanely boring repeatable content (collect 20 bear asses, close Legion-I mean Fade rifts, etc). "Okay but why not just skip the boring repeatable quests?" Good that you asked, Jimmy. You see, the main story is gated behind arbitrary Inqusition points that can only be obtained by doing said aforementioned insanely boring repeatable content, sort of like how content is gated in MMOs to prevent no-lifers from burning through all the available content in a single week and spend the remaining three weeks of their subscription time whining about how there's nothing to do.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 5, 2017 2:52:26 GMT
Not trolling... I spent 2 years ranting about DAI on a daily basis because they destroyed my favorite franchise, if getting butthurt is trolling then ok... now I do this more rarely so perhaps it is trolling since it doesn't hurt me that much anymore, so it is less honest and more "attetion whorism", but the scars DAI left on my soul are deep enough for me to say that it is not 100% trolling. I'm more of a mentally sick person than a troll. My investment on DA is serious, I still play DAO, meaning I am currently playing,I am alyways playing, it is (was) really of a big deal for me. The only reason I am not making a thousando topics on every forum ranting about DAI now is because of PoE and Tyranny, Obsidian saved my soul (and 2018, PoE2 will keep me alive another year). Tyranny is probably the first game I finished 4 times straight, not even DAO was that good (I usually finish games dozens of times, but rarely more than once at launch, I usually get into games a year or years after release and then I never stop playing them, but Tyranny is so godlike it captured me right there, love at first sight), but other than that I would still be obsessively talking about how awful DAI is, and I mean crazily crazy obsessive. Dude...seriously...get help!
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Post by Revan Reborn on Mar 5, 2017 2:52:31 GMT
Not trolling... I spent 2 years ranting about DAI on a daily basis because they destroyed my favorite franchise, if getting butthurt is trolling then ok... now I do this more rarely so perhaps it is trolling since it doesn't hurt me that much anymore, so it is less honest and more "attetion whorism", but the scars DAI left on my soul are deep enough for me to say that it is not 100% trolling. I'm more of a mentally sick person than a troll. My investment on DA is serious, I still play DAO, meaning I am currently playing,I am alyways playing, it is (was) really of a big deal for me. The only reason I am not making a thousando topics on every forum ranting about DAI now is because of PoE and Tyranny, Obsidian saved my soul (and 2018, PoE2 will keep me alive another year). Tyranny is probably the first game I finished 4 times straight, not even DAO was that good (I usually finish games dozens of times, but rarely more than once at launch, I usually get into games a year or years after release and then I never stop playing them, but Tyranny is so godlike it captured me right there, love at first sight), but other than that I would still be obsessively talking about how awful DAI is, and I mean crazily crazy obsessive.
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Post by Cyonan on Mar 5, 2017 2:55:55 GMT
Not trolling... I spent 2 years ranting about DAI on a daily basis because they destroyed my favorite franchise, if getting butthurt is trolling then ok... now I do this more rarely so perhaps it is trolling since it doesn't hurt me that much anymore, so it is less honest and more "attetion whorism", but the scars DAI left on my soul are deep enough for me to say that it is not 100% trolling. I'm more of a mentally sick person than a troll. My investment on DA is serious, I still play DAO, meaning I am currently playing,I am alyways playing, it is (was) really of a big deal for me. The only reason I am not making a thousando topics on every forum ranting about DAI now is because of PoE and Tyranny, Obsidian saved my soul (and 2018, PoE2 will keep me alive another year). Tyranny is probably the first game I finished 4 times straight, not even DAO was that good (I usually finish games dozens of times, but rarely more than once at launch, I usually get into games a year or years after release and then I never stop playing them, but Tyranny is so godlike it captured me right there, love at first sight), but other than that I would still be obsessively talking about how awful DAI is, and I mean crazily crazy obsessive. To be fair you'd be taken as less of a troll if you didn't claim a video game was worse than cancer, nazis, and slavery. It's not that you hate the game or think that it ruined the franchise so much as it is the absurd statements about how it's literally the worst thing ever produced by the Human species. I mean, I don't forgive EA for what they did to Command and Conquer. However, we've produced a lot of worse shit than any video game no matter how bad.
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Post by simsimillia on Mar 5, 2017 3:02:46 GMT
I didn't play it much so I don't know how the game was. DA:I was essentially a single-player MMO with insanely boring repeatable content (collect 20 bear asses, close Legion-I mean Fade rifts, etc). "Okay but why not just skip the boring repeatable quests?" Good that you asked, Jimmy. You see, the main story is gated behind arbitrary Inqusition points that can only be obtained by doing said aforementioned insanely boring repeatable content, sort of like how content is gated in MMOs to prevent no-lifers from burning through all the available content in a single week and spend the remaining three weeks of their subscription time whining about how there's nothing to do. I like most of the Zone Main Quests and between that and doing some of that repeatable stuff you come across while doing the Zone quest I think you can get by, quite nicely.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 5, 2017 3:20:22 GMT
I didn't play it much so I don't know how the game was. DA:I was essentially a single-player MMO with insanely boring repeatable content (collect 20 bear asses, close Legion-I mean Fade rifts, etc). "Okay but why not just skip the boring repeatable quests?" Good that you asked, Jimmy. You see, the main story is gated behind arbitrary Inqusition points that can only be obtained by doing said aforementioned insanely boring repeatable content, sort of like how content is gated in MMOs to prevent no-lifers from burning through all the available content in a single week and spend the remaining three weeks of their subscription time whining about how there's nothing to do. ... the "collect 20 bear asses" (or more like collect 3 grizzly claws) was a quest put into the game as a joke, because of how obnoxiously difficult the bear in DAI can be Other then that, DAI doesn't have more fetch quest than your regular RPG. And most of them can be done when following a larger quest or as part of a bigger objective anyhow.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 5, 2017 6:18:30 GMT
Yeah, as long as you can beat any rift you run into while doing a main mission it's pretty much impossible to run short of Power.
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Post by Cypher on Mar 5, 2017 9:44:13 GMT
DAI is the worst thing ever made... some reasons: 1 - MMORPG-style fetch quests 2 - MMORPG-style resource gathering and respawn 3 - MMORPG-style combat and enemy respawn4 - MMORPG-style streamlined combat, combat roles, skills, etc 5 - Power is useless if you are a completionist and a grind if you just want to follow the story 6 - Story is Marvel Formula, awful main character, great companions, "awfuler" villain 7 - Awful story pace 8 - Villain is never a threat after act 1, in fact it is pitiable how much of a failure the villain is 9 - Farming for money and schematics is ridiculous and if you use the Golden Nug combat becomes pointless, so either way awful 10 - Out of combat game seems like playing Mario 64 if Nintendo did not try to give it a good gameplay, just trade Stars for Shards and other stuff 11 - Trespasser, Descent and JoH expand the lore and are amazing at that but gameplay wise they are still the base game, Trespasser however showed that DAI could be a lot better than what it was if Bioware did not try to make a game huge maps with empty spaces and retarded fetch quests instead of just a great story Best thing about Inquisition. If I need to go back to an area or if I'm able to go back to an area, I want there to still be things to kill.
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Post by Xerxes52 on Mar 5, 2017 9:53:37 GMT
DAI is the worst thing ever made... some reasons: 1 - MMORPG-style fetch quests 2 - MMORPG-style resource gathering and respawn 3 - MMORPG-style combat and enemy respawn4 - MMORPG-style streamlined combat, combat roles, skills, etc 5 - Power is useless if you are a completionist and a grind if you just want to follow the story 6 - Story is Marvel Formula, awful main character, great companions, "awfuler" villain 7 - Awful story pace 8 - Villain is never a threat after act 1, in fact it is pitiable how much of a failure the villain is 9 - Farming for money and schematics is ridiculous and if you use the Golden Nug combat becomes pointless, so either way awful 10 - Out of combat game seems like playing Mario 64 if Nintendo did not try to give it a good gameplay, just trade Stars for Shards and other stuff 11 - Trespasser, Descent and JoH expand the lore and are amazing at that but gameplay wise they are still the base game, Trespasser however showed that DAI could be a lot better than what it was if Bioware did not try to make a game huge maps with empty spaces and retarded fetch quests instead of just a great story Best thing about Inquisition. If I need to go back to an area or if I'm able to go back to an area, I want there to still be things to kill. Gotta agree with that. In DAI I would go back to some areas just to kill stuff like Great Bears, Giants, and the Red Templars/Venatori mooks. Using Even Ground, Walk Softly, and Grizzly End on my current playthrough, and it's a blast going back to fight level 23 Great Bears and Giants.
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