If its a new protagonist every game...

Apr 9, 2017 15:28:29 GMT alanc9 said:

Well, the hollow earth claim has the disadvantage of having no support from the scientific community. (This isn't the "argument from authority " logical fallacy since we're debating whether we even bother having the logical argument, and in any event there are experts with real expertise in the field.) Are her lore claims equally disadvantaged?

I'm not quite sure what the substance of the dispute is, actually. What lore in particular are you two talking abou?

Well, the idea that Citadel races can repair mass relays has the disadvantage of having no support in the codex or any lore. Furthermore, it has the disadvantage of being blatantly contradictory to what the codex, lore and in-game dialog establishes. It's only present in the EC dialog that contradicts ME1-3 on the issue. The EC, in this case, is being called into question about its validity on this issue. The concept that the relays can be repaired by any of the Citadel or Terminus species is the main point. They cannot fix it. The Milky Way residents don't even know how to fabricate the materials used by the Reapers. This is a verifiable factoid.

Apr 10, 2017 12:47:46 GMT griffith82 said:

Apr 10, 2017 8:20:10 GMT The Twilight God said:

What is this "Alpha Relay project"? Do you mean the research team studying Object Rho? Seemed to me like the Council got nothing worthwhile from Ilos. In any regard there are no "years of research by various species" mentioned. Where are you getting this from? There is no mention whatsoever of any advancement in the understanding of mass relay technology. That is conjecture on your part that you've invented. It doesn't become feasible just because you say so.

Neither does what you say for that matter. Ilos you are correct in referring to the one on mars. You seem to forget they discovered a lot of information more than just the crucible plans. Plus they have Javik. Look done if this is possibly conjecture but there is enough information to satisfy me. It doesn't you and that's fine that doesn't make my theory any less right than yours. I believe that they have enough information from their sources to rebuild. I'm from a generation that didn't need everything spelled out for them to enjoy it they left it open to interpretation. I'm fine with it your not let's leave it at that.

Griffith82, it does not matter what Prothean site you refer to. There is no indication whatsoever that they recovered anything on Mars relating to the mass relays. That would make zero sense. 

Remember that the Protheans did not actually create the mass relays.

Remember that the Conduit research was done solely on Ilos.

Remember that Ilos was top secret and only the central government knew about it.

Remember that all information on it was destroyed in the initial Reaper attack.

Remember that Javik was a soldier, not a scientist. He knows nothing about how Reaper or Prothean tech works.

And, yes, you are "less right". And I'm not proposing a theory. I'm speaking object verifiable game facts. It's not a matter of opinion or "interpretation".

If your personal made up fantasies are enough to satisfy your completely baseless beliefs that's between you and your imagination. The issue isn't that you don't have a right to make up whatever headcanon you want. The issue is your claim that your headcanon can be backed up with in-game data (i.e. that it's consistent with the given lore). I'm discussing the facts, not your invented fantasies (which are personal to you). When it comes to your personal fan fiction there is no point arguing further. With that said I don't think we have anything more to discuss.