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LIBRARY (links) TO ALL MOST THE IN GAME NUMERICAL TESTS
Performed to assess the mp mechanics during the first years Credits for the content go to peddroelm , corlist and tyhw mainly
The post below this one contains the links to tests we backed up from The Bioware Forum. Most interesting ones are there in different forms. Few ressource threads have been added at the end too and might end elsewhere. Thx a lot to BlackMage , Gecko , capn233 and srgtcolon for their help ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE 2016 10 25 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A lot of threads are saved on webarchive.org, U just have to add the former adress at the end EXAMPLE : Incendiary ammo test thread on TBF : forum.bioware.com/topic/396536-incendiary-ammo-confirmed-bug-mechanics-corrections/Incendiary ammo test thread Backed up on webarchive is reachable here : web.archive.org/https://forum.bioware.com/topic/396536-incendiary-ammo-confirmed-bug-mechanics-corrections/The actual adress will update automatically to add a version number but you have to copy paste it into your webbrowser (proboard wont link) The google doc we used to follow the operation will stay usefull with all the former link adress. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Original Post ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Bsn, As u may have noticed, the ME3MP library and all the page linked in it have been saved and transferred on the shelter here : isitaboutmycube.com/shelter/resourcelibraries/topic/467220-the-me3-mp-resource-library/index.htmlSome threads, however, are already links compilation. And the most important thread of them all (all library included imo) is peddroelm ingame numerical tests thread : As u can see there, it s all links, and they cant just be "Http track copier" because they are links to BSN prime forwarded (not all of them work btw) to The Bioware Forum. Those links will be dead in less than a week as TBF will go offline on October 25. So i m starting this thread to see if i could get some help to save everything or at least the most interesting stuff. As is, there s around 135 links in the test thread OP. I have think only a bit about it and here s what I see fit : Volunteers could create new threads on this mp forum and copy paste tests thread in them (i mean the test itself and its TL;DR, not the full thread). Then copy paste the new link in this thread. BEWARE THE FORMATTING doesn't follow with a copy paste from The Bioware Forum : don't forget to manually put back the "strike through" formattingI would then update the link list in the op ... This way we even would have a basis for further mechanics boring discussion. If u have a better idea or know how to copy paste all of them in bulk, well, that could be great. I have copy paste the main Thread on a google doc so you guys (and me) could highlight or put in red the threads you already transferred here : docs.google.com/document/d/1NYNlY_asfomYI7zb9cDUOZl4qfFfe0DCtWCkFZFtMXk/edit?usp=sharingUPDATE : - Red text threads have been saved here - Greyed threads are more or less useless IMO, the more white the more useless - Orange thread have been saved but are full of links which are not always saved - blue threads already are in the new MP library media.giphy.com/media/uHQLUrji7dpaE/giphy.gif
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 20, 2016 11:57:25 GMT
Numerical Tests list :
Abilities and Power tests
Corlist's "Incinerate freeze combo tests" : Test Thread
Corlist's "Snap freeze tech combo retested" : Test Thread
Peddro's "Sabotage 50% tech vulnerability test" conclusions + effect on heavy melee : Test Thread
Peddro's "Sentry Turret - mechanics // tests ": Test Thread
Corlist's "Dark sphere mechanics and bugs": Test Thread
Peddro's "Overload and neural chock test": Test Thread
Peddro's "Tactical Scan Debuff Mechanics"link: Test Thread 1 2
Peddro's "Tactical Cloak Damage Boost Duration is 2.5 seconds": Test Thread
Peddro's “Armor Weakening Effects Stack”: Test Thread
Peddro's “Sticky Grenades”: Test Thread
Peddro's “Debuff Bonuses from the Same Player Do Not Stack” Test Thread
Incinerate Mechanics test by Peddro : doc
Tyhw "Energy Drain recovers shields based on damage done": Test Thread
Peddro's test on nova damage : “it's proportional to percentage of barrier left”: doc
Corlist testing biotic orbs debuff AoE : doc
Peddro's " Flamer mechanics explained": Test Thread
Recon Mine debuff: Test Thread
Smash Test by Vironblood: Test Thread
Sabotage gives *1.5 global additive melee bonus to QI, and other Sabotage tests: Test Thread
Peddro testing Concussive Shot: Test Thread
Peddro testing Biotic Charge level 5: Temporary boost to power and weapon damage do not stack. Data Doc
Corlist’s test “Bug : Siege pulse Evo 6B is multiplicative but *1.4 instead of *1.6” : Test Thread with link to data doc
Peddro's “ BUG: Frag Grenade – Armor-Piercing and Shield Overload evolutions are wrong”: Tests Thread
Corlist and Vironblood feature: “BUG - asari infiltrator TC only boosts power and melee”:Doc
Justicar Bubble debuff testedTest Post (new thread)
Blade Armor returned damage glitch explained (pulled from the code by Scab)) : burningcherry 's thread
Classes and character tests
Peddro's “Reckoning Class Mechanics”: Test Thread
Corlist's “Krogan Warlord Hammer Mechanics”: Test Thread
Peddro's “Talon Mercenary Skill Mechanics”: Test Thread
Incendiary Ammo Bugs Peddro's "Incendiary AMMO (confirmed BUG) mechanics (+ corrections)" Test thread (original thread on the webarchive)
Tyhw’s tests of 3 Powers Generating incendiary cheese: Doc
Detrimental BUG : FireExplosion DOT and Fire ammo DOT interference issues: Tyhw's test thread and corlist's google doc)
Homing Grenade fire EVO works for generating incendiary cheese and 6A armor muliptlier is 1.5 (not 1.6) and works too : burningcherry thread
Electrical Hammer Fire evo also 5A works for generating incendiary cheese and has the nice multiplier against barrier and shield (*3*1.75 if 4A) and to a lesser degree vs armor (*1.5 tested in another thread): burningcherry thread
Enemies tested
Corlist's "Phantom and bubble oddities»: Test Thread
Peddro testing Boss HeadShot : doc
Atlas Armor Plate Damage: Test Thread
Freak one Bug Test: "Cerberus Atlas triple-hit bug (numbers and picture inside)" : Test Thread
Peddro’s Bug test : “Like the Atlas - Ravagers also suffer from double/triple hit issues”: Test Thread
Scion Double Hits Confirmed, by tyhw: Live Link
Praetorians: Lots of Double Hits and Double Damage Headshots, by tyhw: Live Link
burningcherry Reject hit points and weak spots : live thread
burningcherry bug test : the atlas gets 24% reduced combo damage : live Thread
burningcherry enemy spawn DR checked
Consumables and equipment tests
Peddro's "More Incendiary and Explosive ammo tests": Test Thread
Corlist's “Cranial Trauma System”: Test Thread
Corlist's “Level 4 Consumable Stats” Test Thread
Thermal Clips Pack Consumable: +100% additive weapon damage bonus for 10 seconds (stacks) Tests Thread
Weapon tests list
Corlist's : "N7 Typhoon TESTED, no natural armor negation + new findings": Test Thread
Peddro's : "Sniper Rifle out of scope penalty table": List Thread
Peddro's "Reckoning new weapon mechanics": Test Thread
Peddro's "Venom mechanics and test" Test Thread
All projectile weapons ignore armor DR, all but the Krysae ignore shield gate: test numbers
Corlist's Arc Pistol Charging Mechanics: Test Thread
Peddro's Particle Rifle Mechanics: Test Thread
Corlist’s “Acolyte ignores shield gate and armor DR (included enemy shield gate bleed through formula) : Test Thread
Corlist's Collector SMG mechanics Test Thread
Peddro's "STRIKER mechanics : Not breaking cloak bug and RoF = 275 rpm" : Test Doc
Peddro's "Geth SMG RoF = 720 rpm test”: Test Doc
Reegar Numerical Tests and Conclusions: Test Thread
Corlist on Chakram Launcher Mechanics: Test Thread
Peddro’s “Charge Up Mechanics for MP Guns”: Test Thread
Peddro’s “Scorpion mechanics”: Test Thread
Melee tests list :
Corlist's Table of all heavy melee vs defences: Table Thread
Corlist's "Volus melee/shield boost mechanics": Test Thread
Peddro's Melee Add-on test: A Global Melee Damage Multiplier: Test Thread
Shadow Strike damage formula: Test Thread
Paladin Melee Extra Damage Test: Test Thread
Peddro’s “Bloodlust Melee Damage Stacks”: Test Thread
Peddro’s: ”Strength Enhancer III - 30% Additive Melee Damage Bonus: Test Thread
Other usefull threads list (NOW in the Library):
Corlist's "Summary: special properties of weapons"
Peddro's: "LATEST ITERATION OF THE ME3 WEAPON DAMAGE FORMULA"
Eric Fagnan Weekly Balance Changes for MP : live link
Eric Fagnan Gameplay Data and Mechanics : link including values for shield gates and a lot of usefull stuff
Casimeer's "Incredibly Useful Trick Against Phantoms (and to a lesser degree, Banshees)": link
Ressource Thread: "Stasis mechanics"
Ressource Thread : Capn233 detailing weapon stat terms in cyonan spreadsheets: link
Crusader delay bug fix for PC : Thread
Dalakaar Thread on voluses
Lost test links with usefull intel in the title
Targeting VI : Targeting VI II is a 25% and Targeting VI III is a 35% additive bonus in case of headshots Vulnerability VI is an additive bonus in case of head shots by Corlist Head Shot Passive (5B) is additive damage bonus (no relation to the head shot multiplier) Batarian gauntlet maintains batarian melee vs defences modifiers by corlist
Main Thread Archives on Webarchive.org Pages : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, ... 27.
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Post by Deerber on Oct 20, 2016 13:13:12 GMT
Good job, Alfonse. If I find some time at all these days I'll lend a hand
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 20, 2016 13:54:22 GMT
I have saved a few and will do another run later on or maybe try HTTPCoppier myself I have put the saved link in red in the google docI have put a blue color for threads allready saved in the library
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 20, 2016 15:59:17 GMT
I ll stop for now, sorry for flooding the first page ;p
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Post by srgtcolon on Oct 20, 2016 18:28:46 GMT
Wouldn't these be better as posts under the Resource Library thread? Or, if they are threads, lets give them some uniform subject prefix, e.g.: - ME3 MP Resource Library: Peddro's "Sabotage 50% tech vulnerability test" conclusions
- ME3 MP Resource Library: Peddro's "Sentry Turret - mechanics // tests "
- ME3 MP Resource Library: Corlist's "Phantom and bubble oddities"
etc.
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Post by OneWomanArmy on Oct 20, 2016 18:48:35 GMT
I'm sorry for my ignorance but who is Peddro?...
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 21, 2016 8:00:42 GMT
Wouldn't these be better as posts under the Resource Library thread? Or, if they are threads, lets give them some uniform subject prefix, e.g.: - ME3 MP Resource Library: Peddro's "Sabotage 50% tech vulnerability test" conclusions
- ME3 MP Resource Library: Peddro's "Sentry Turret - mechanics // tests "
- ME3 MP Resource Library: Corlist's "Phantom and bubble oddities"
etc. Not sure, as tests were found better to have their own threads. That s how they were still working when forwarded ... Then, as it doesnt seem i ll get much help, i guess i ll just save my favourite ones ... If u wanna save some and use that formatting, i ll see if i reformat stuff. I wld rather use ME3 MP Test Thread than Ressource library, as it s not in the ressource library ... I'm sorry for my ignorance but who is Peddro?... Peddro is the guy who made the test thread compilation. He did many tests himself, was very reliable. He was the guy who found the weapon formula in SP in ME 2 and maybe ME 1too, a long, long time ago. The thread is really full of well conducted testing and it wld be a shame to loose all of it. Even if it s only for a few geek like me . Might even come in handy for ME:A. Well doesnt seem i will get much help
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 21, 2016 13:52:56 GMT
I have put some more on the front page and added a few thread i found usefull that were not saved in the library. Maybe if you have some of those, you should submit them (links) in the new ressource library after posting them.
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Post by BlackMage on Oct 21, 2016 14:27:33 GMT
I will be happy to help. Please let me know which threads I should do.
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Post by BlackMage on Oct 21, 2016 15:56:40 GMT
I did the Errata - Armor Weakening thread. Please check whether this is what you want. It's verbatim except that I have left out the irrelevant posts and edited for obvious typos. If this is fine, I'll do a couple more.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 21, 2016 16:06:16 GMT
I did the Errata - Armor Weakening thread. Please check whether this is what you want. It's verbatim except that I have left out the irrelevant posts and edited for obvious typos. If this is fine, I'll do a couple more. Really nice, as i dont bother getting more than the op most of the time. Too bad this one doesnt have a TL DR then u can post the link here Numerical Tests Thread: Peddro's Errata - Armor Weakening Effects StackThen u could put the text in red in the google doc
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Post by BlackMage on Oct 21, 2016 19:54:06 GMT
I've done all the ones marked in green. For "Cryo Blast Debuff", I went through all 27 pages and can't find anything really useful. I did Corlist's freeze combo tests instead as that seemed more relevant.
Edited: I've deleted the freeze combo tests thread as there is already an "Incinerate freeze combo tests" marked as done in your list.
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Post by BlackMage on Oct 22, 2016 7:51:13 GMT
I do a manual cut-and-paste as I only want to extract the more useful parts.
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Post by BlackMage on Oct 22, 2016 8:11:15 GMT
I did a few more which I deem useful. Doubt I will be doing any more unless there are specific threads which you would like me to do.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 22, 2016 8:19:48 GMT
NIcely done guys ! Thx, I think we are not far from having the best stuff. Maybe working on relink the reckoning class thread or stuff like that could be the most usefull. But Gecko (mod) has proposed to "take over" for some formatting so i guess we better wait to see how this will be done. (we and mainly I, indeed flooded the mp forum ) Anyway, as u have spent some time on them, u have seen much stuff is allready lost (i mean links not working) or too badly formatted to be usefull.
I guess i ll just put in red the links u guys did save. Edit : its allready done, cool
BlackMage : sorry about that cryo blast thread, i was supposed to check before putting some green . U ended up scanning the whole test thread instead ! I think the test is really limited and is inclued in the clock damage duration test. So, better forget about it as it works as designed.
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Post by BlackMage on Oct 22, 2016 8:31:46 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean by re-linking for the Reckoning class thread. I've either copied over the relevant parts from the linked threads or created new links/threads last night. All links in the threads I've done are working.
P.S. I've edited the various threads a couple of times.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 22, 2016 14:28:37 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean by re-linking for the Reckoning class thread. I've either copied over the relevant parts from the linked threads or created new links/threads last night. All links in the threads I've done are working.
P.S. I've edited the various threads a couple of times.
Huge stuff Blackmage, i had no idea you allready updated the links. I havent updated much link in the threads i pasted here... Thx
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 22, 2016 14:31:35 GMT
Hollyshiht, what is this stuff ? Is like the google indexing or someone actually did smtg to get TBF there ? The link are even reprogrammed... But most of them dont work ...
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 22, 2016 15:12:06 GMT
Good job, Alfonse. If I find some time at all these days I'll lend a hand Deerba, u one who know that thread really well, so at least try to take a look at what we selected and point worst miss ! capn233 : please take a look too at the google doc
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Post by capn233 on Oct 22, 2016 15:54:08 GMT
What is this wizardry where you can summon people to threads?
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